A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio

Discussion in 'Japan Toys' started by mondocoyote, Aug 6, 2009.

  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Riddle me this: What's the difference between a raffle and a raffle?
     
  2. JoeMan

    JoeMan Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    4,868
    Location:
    NY
    flickr:
    splurrt
    Instagram:
    splurrt
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    One is a raffle and one is waffle misspelled.
     
  3. kidclam

    kidclam Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,251
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    SNAFU?

    Back to the thread topic.. have they actually announced officially or know the creator yet?
    Are there any future releases for these? Also will they ever release outside of Japan?
     
  4. logang1

    logang1 Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,015
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Oooo....when you use the term "they"......it sounds even more mysterious....

    wow now I really really really really want one, and will pay tons for one...anything...I must have it....

    Can't you just feel the YJA prices swelling as we speak?
     
  5. kidclam

    kidclam Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,251
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Sarcasm aside, hype is created by all of us whether directly or indirectly.
    It's not like you haven't bid on YJA and in turn influenced on how much the value of that toy is.
    That said, I don't think I ever paid 60-75K yen for an RxH either or a 100K for a GID Maza or a 2 headed Bemon...

    Right now I don't know if the creator is a him, her, "they", it, or even you for that matter. It is a toy forum no? Why do we come here?
    Can we still talk about the toy or do we have to shut up since it might affect how much you have to spend in the end for this?
    If my innocent question does influence the price big time, then its better off if this forum discussions be only on Super7 releases.

    That said, any more info on future releases and more background to this figure?
     
  6. akum6n

    akum6n Vintage

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2006
    Messages:
    7,300
    Location:
    Shima
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
  7. kidclam

    kidclam Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,251
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    and from that thread comes

     
  8. Darky

    Darky Line of Credit

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,847
    Location:
    Australia
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Haha, I was going to reference the thread but didn't. :D
     
  9. atease

    atease Super Deformed

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Messages:
    5,388
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    ah I was waiting for someone to post that thread somewhere.

    highly amusing.
     
  10. logang1

    logang1 Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,015
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Please keep the beatings coming! LOL ! If you were sensing any hint of self-righteousness from me, you were dead wrong. Buy what you like, pay what you like...... The bottomline is that the seemingly contrived nature of this release is what I am not sure about.

    But it is kind of a interesting character....but I hardly believe that "they" will reveal themselves anytime soon.
     
  11. Rich

    Rich Die-Cast

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2006
    Messages:
    12,339
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    The only thing I got from that old thread was just how much RxH has changed price wise on the secondary market. In 2-3 years the prices on the secondary market has changed so drastically its hard to comprehend. Has any other toy brand .... ever ..... started out almost not selling any figures to selling figures on secondary market for 1K and over back to selling for below cost all in 2 years ?

    How does something like this happen ?
     
  12. andy

    andy Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2006
    Messages:
    4,913
    Location:
    Kaiju Korner
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Secret Base set the first boom and bust pattern, followed by RxH. Then it spread all over the place. But yeah, RxH probably takes the cake for the most extreme cycle.

    I think it happens for reasons people don't want to talk about - hype, competition, pattern collecting etc. The fact that so few people have any interest in this stuff probably contributes to the volatility. The boom/bust cycle has been really violent over the last year.

    Not sure if there's any solution. It's a messy/complicated situation.
     
  13. kidclam

    kidclam Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,251
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Its definitely this board.

    Cause:
    Prices for RxH was strong second market
    US rise in customer base, because of the hype
    Chance for Mori to provide the demand
    Store opening
    More releases with Mini
    Regular releases - many new colors fans did not like as much

    Effect:
    Buying plateau = Hype deflates
    Too many mini releases
    Collectors big sell out
    Same toys reappearing in sales threads
    Selling became harder, cut in price.
    Wanting the next new toy, sel sell sell, cut cut cut
    Recession - finalé

    And I think RFSO under rides this as prices kept going down, no after market value leading to rxh meltdown

    To me though - RHND
     
  14. BloodDrinker6969

    BloodDrinker6969 Die-Cast

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Messages:
    12,026
    Location:
    Chicago, Like R.Kelly
    Name:
    RockStrongo
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Hahahahahaha good times. I'm so glad RxH prices dropped, I'm also glad I don't give a damn about this thing enough to care. Life is good 8)
     
  15. logang1

    logang1 Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,015
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    @BD: Good times indeed. Great to meet you in Chi-town.


    Rich, per your comments...what's most interesting is that it seems that releases since June/July 2007 seem to be the most common to be flushed these days. Any RxH from like...2005 to end of 2006ish is still wedged in most collectors hands, and doesn't really make it up for sale publicly....rare pieces going quietly between collectors only, etc.

    That being said, anybody got an OG PopSoda Chaos that they want to get rid of ?!?!?
     
  16. Vombie

    Vombie Vintage

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2007
    Messages:
    7,989
    Location:
    VA
    Name:
    g
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?


    yeah--what up with that??? I think some of Mori's best work has been from 2007 on (but that's just me). When it was the somewhat elusive cool new toy, everyone was all about it because ppl who had them felt pretty awesome and ppl who didn't went crazy. So then some pieces come around and you jump in just to find out that everyone can get what you have (for half price), so you lose interest and start collecting Anraku and Zollmen. the older stuff still holds its value somewhat so I think ppl tend to keep them longer. Me, I paid way too much for some of them just to sell at a fraction of the cost today so I'm kind of stuck with mine. :razz:
     
  17. liquidsky

    liquidsky Vintage

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2005
    Messages:
    7,725
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Beginning in late 2007-8, too many weak sculpts that never really gained traction.
    And people buying stuff to impress board members, but, at the end of the day, not really into it.
     
  18. kaiwi

    kaiwi Addicted

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    549
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    I think 2007 is when the releases became readily available here. The release sizes were probably larger as well. Both of those factors helped kill the secondary market.
     
  19. Anti Social Andy

    Anti Social Andy Die-Cast

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    10,172
    Location:
    The Grim North
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    I may be wrong, but from my recollection pics of Pogues collection and talk of the S7 Mook feature, and it's potential impact on RxH prices kinda set the ball rolling . . . then with too many minis, too many new sculpts and the economy in the crapper, interest and prices took a dive.

    The Secret Base downturn was more down to QC and lame ass colourways . . . just wondering if this may be part of the reason Hiddy is so keen to diversify and market Skulls, clothing keychains and all the other (non fight figure) crap that they now deal in rather than having all his eggs in one basket!

    Still not giving a rats ass about the sculpt this thread was started to hype!
     
  20. kurumonz

    kurumonz Side Dealer

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    2,415
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Its all supply and demand isn't it.
    The makers made some, they sold out. So they made more to sell more. They've been selling it at roughly the same price all this time. Its the after-market that decides the price after that. I remember common used toy were sold at a third of its price or less.

    I guess barring any scandal or fraud if a toy is well designed, its demand and value will remain high.
     
  21. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Fallout shelter ready yet?
     
  22. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    [​IMG]
     
  23. kidclam

    kidclam Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,251
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    Today because of Apple announcement, the other announcement gets pushed so everyone will be available.
     
  24. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    [​IMG]
     
  25. Slack

    Slack Mini Boss

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,507
    Instagram:
    slacktrades
    A Nag Pa I Root (NAGNAGNAG) and der Angora Patio
    Re: Got paranoia?

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page