Hirota Saigansho: Gorilla-ju, Mecha Gorilla-ju, & Others

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    Nope! It's a blind auction. Way more chance of collectors overbidding. Way more chance of shenanigans.

    Just because Hirota was once an innovator, doesn't make him a infallible . . . dude still has to put his pants on one leg at a time!
     
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    I'm not really a HxS guy *gasp!* so maybe I'm missing something but to echo @michael, this really does just look like a Kidrobot sculpt. Not seeing how this is a collab at all from the Hirota side lol.
     
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    As a Simpson's fan, I absolutely LOVE the Wiggum-clops. Aside from the original Mecha it's the only thing he's made that I like. If I could own one for $100 I would absolutely LOVE to have that looming over my WoS Simpson's collection.
     
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    Oh wow, missed that cyclops... been cutting back on my IG scrolling as of late. I understand the context of the Kidrobot jab now. :razz:

    It's real weird to see. I never expected him to go in this direction. I must agree with @Kerk1 and say it's lacking any real touch by Hirota (he doesn't have a patent on one-eyed monsters). I think it's the least interesting sculpt I've seen with his name attached to it. If any western vinyl toy designer announced a relative non-soft vinyl figure of this nature I doubt anyone apart from a Simpsons devotee would give a shit and assume it would readily be dismissed as garbage.
     
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    im talking about blind auctions as well. doesn't make him infallible i agree. just the contradictary of some amuses me how it's okay for one, but the other gets the shame bell rang. again some...
     
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    I actually really like this cyclops toy, I think it's well designed and executed. I also don't see how it is any different than many of the KR Simpsons toys they did, albeit a little smoother and fancier. That being said, I wouldn't get it, even though I think it's well done.

    As for the price, I'm sure it's going to be absurd. A fool and his money are soon parted...
     
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    My wife is a massive Simpsons fan, so I'd be in for one, but I don't imagine that's the audience being shot for here...?

    I wish the Lard Lad was separate.
     
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    How I read it wasn’t an auction, as that would be more directly about whoever has the most monies can/will own it at the end determined bid. I read it as “I can sell to Mike right now, who’s clearly interested in buying, but I’d rather sell to this person(say, celebrity) because it’ll make my brand look cooler in their hands.” As for existing entities without Hirota’s factory? Maybe, maybe not. His factory isn’t the only one, hasn’t been, and the family name isn’t what got people interested in the new wave of soft vinyl. It was the artists and toys that came out of the factory. As far as I’m concerned, only until recently, Hirota’s name was secondary to everyone’s toys he pulled except his own. No one gave a shit, and probably still don’t, that Honda’s Kougai gets pulled out of that factory, they just want a Bemon Kougai.
     
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    No, but yes. :lol: I'm not gonna hold my breath for one, but ya never know.
     
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    i'm sure part of the resurgance in Bemon:Kougai popularity is that... we saw a steady increase in popularity on pretty much all sculpts that were/are pulled from the factory. It's just a big conversation for a lot of us because we have been around and saw the wave of how things have been over the years. there has been recession times, and resurgance of many things over the past decade.
     
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    This hobby has almost officiallly comes down to:
    1. Who has got thé $$$ can buy my sh$t
    2. Who's member of my fan club/list got proiority dib on release
    3. Who's unlucky enough to bé in group 1 or group 2 can take part to a lotery;
    4. First come first serve.
    5. What thé f*cck did.you not understand from #1 to #4?
     
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    I kinda think it's always been like this. It's just more transparent or obvious now because there are so many more toymakers and collectors...and there are a lot more releases. Plus IG has people posting their wins to put more emphasis on this. As a result we are seeing a wider spread in prices, run sizes, etc.

    I also think these can be looked at as both positives and negatives in collecting, which I can elaborate on if needed, but it' a bigger conversation.
     
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    My Mad Toyz Not Man would like a word.

    Anyway, everyone is pretty much on the money here. Fun toy but if it was by Kid Robot or the like no one would bat an eyelid. The novelty of it being by Hirota is what makes it fun. If he continues collaborations in such a fashion I'm sure the brand will run out of steam but otherwise, this is a pretty interesting footnote in his output.
     
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    Like most I was aware of this due to Del Toro’s involvement but I have to say, who watches The Simpsons past season 10? Eurgh

    EDIT: I should say, it is a good intro regardless of being part of the Zombie Simpsons syndication.
     
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    I don’t think the resurgence of interest in the Kougai has anything at all to do with the factory it’s produced out of. It’s super anecdotal but I’ve yet to see a single comment made by anyone about the origins of the vinyl pulls. Even prior to my learning Hirota pulls Bemon I didn’t see any mention of that here. That’s not at all to say no one else knew, but it can’t be a talking/selling point if no one’s talking about it. Personally, I think particular collectors brought attention to Kougai with IG posts and got a lot of new eyes on it. There’s also the MVH sculpt the easily drew attention to its influence. In regards to you specifically feeling like Hirota’s factory is responsible for sculpt resurgence I’d argue that Pilot Ace’s Harryhausen monsters and Take - Shit’s Fink Shit fit the category. He’s since released new renditions of the Fink Shit itself(large, bulging eye version) and the Cyclops. But there aren’t too many new collectors that are aware of Pilot Ace at all, and hashtag even the OG Fink Shit with Hirota’s name, and not Takeshi’s.
     
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    Oh damned! I thought it was some kind of mash up atrocities. Just posted it on the fugly thread.
    It is an actual character from the show! Well I’m out of touch.

    (Still one fugly Simpson character)
     
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    Yep Bemon has always gone for big bucks, even 8 years ago they were going for 300-400 that seemed crazy for the time. Bemon has always stuck to their model of auction sales and never seen anything but a steady tick up in price and desire. I never knew Hirota pulled them until now.
     
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    @JoeMan Indeed! Once he stopped selling through Cosmo Knight Alpha it went straight to YJA, and has been there ever since. I’m more than sure he hooks up friends and shit through the Bemon Fiend Club, but I can’t really think of any sort of method of sales Honda’s done that’s similar to what’s been discussed/frowned upon here.
     
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    It's funny, but talking to a third-party about this literally as it showed up, and THAT's exactly the price point that my interest stops at too! :lol:
     
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    hahahahahaha!!!!
     
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    Waaaaaaaaaaaaait a second. WERE ALL THE NEW DIGITAL SCULPTS THIS BIG!???

    [​IMG]

    I guess that kind of explains a lot of things :shock:. ...Like, why remake them in the first place.
     
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    As a long time Simpson fan (still have my WoS figs) and HxS fan, I would love that Wiggum.
     
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    Think they’re making a 4ft version?
     
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