really? because glenn (@badteethcomics) called john (@kichigai) out about his "show" which basically just seems to be him posting pictures of his TE toys. but also is possibly calling his house "fetish gallery" for some reason...? but that's neither here nor there. so john gets mad, and calls out glenn on some weird bullshit nobody seems to understand? the letter L in longneck not looking correct and then proceeds to just keep calling glenn a liar? glenn defends himself, because nobody has a clue what the fuck john is talking about with the L not looking correct. and then gets his thread locked, and is now banned because of it? listen, I can say I find glenn to be annoying on many occasions on this board, with his passive aggressive posts trying to instigate drama. but if being annoying would get people kicked off the boards, well then goodbye SB! but this instance sure seems to be that kichigai is friends with mods, so they took his back in this argument (which seriously does anyone think the L looks wrong?? seriously?), and now glenn is banned. am I missing something here? other people like alice, scumbags, etc. when they got banned it was pretty clear. so if I'm missing a piece of the puzzle here, I'm all ears... mods? @toothaction , anyone?
From what I saw in this case, Glenn was attacked. While his responses were less than diplomatic, this is one fight he didn't pick. I am a bit confused, as to why it was okay for him to go at Rich time and time again, with little to no public mod response, but replying to someone calling him a liar was somehow inappropriate, while said person gloated in the comments about #glovesoff and checkmate. Again, I only see what is public, but if the above was reason for banning, it's heavy handed moderating at best and biased moderation at worst. This is simply my opinion. We are still allowed to give opinions, right?
I'm with you peeps, its a puzzler. Glen can be a tad cocky at times but at least he's not boring. Or a kiss arse. He just stepped on the wrong toes I guess and he has been annoying Rich (MVH) a fair bit which was getting old, but I'm sure he'd lay off if it meant being let back in. Hardly crime of the century stuff.
Glenn usually does start fights for no reason, that being said if he was banned because of this " L " that really is something. I don't see him starting this argument this time, and even worse is that there is no reason for that said argument. The " L " is the same. Glenn was defending himself over being called a liar, over a damn letter? He said he was given the file personally from Yoda, and I can see that to be very plausible being he is doing a show with the artist and has before. Since him and I have butt heads on many occasions it's kind of funny i'm even writing this in some kind of support of him, but it does seem that there was some kind of impartial judgement this time around, out of all the attacks, and outbursts that he has done, this is the straw that broke the camels back?
Four facts of my own: I don't know why he was banned. I only gave Glenn a taste of his own BS. I am not friends with any MOD. I don't fucking care.
Mate, if you didn't care you wouldn't of just posted that. And what the hell did you mean about the L? It made zero sense.
Let me be more specific Joe....... I don't care weather Glenn is a part of this board or not. I am not sure what was said. Don't care.
okay, but some of us do care, and even with his faults we actually like Glen. You also didn't answer my question about the Longneck L, you really confused a lot of us over that one!
Okay guys, just to be clear, this was not because of the aforementioned 'L' discussion. And to even think so doesn't really give us much credit. It is not fair to say that Glenn has not had several warnings here (along with numerous others mind, I am not singling him out specifically, but this is what the present discussion relates to), both public and private. The simple fact boils down to we have to maintain some sort of rules here. This has always been a part of the board, and was as least made explicit once ownership of it passed to Brian/S7. Part of this system is a clear warning and reporting feature. For anyone that thinks they can decide not to obey those rules, that they don't apply to them because of xxxxx, or just want to test the system, I am afraid that this is not the case [on Skullbrain]. This is not personal against Glenn, but was a decision taken with much discourse among the mods. I believe we've exercised patience with this case, but I am easily corrected (and am sure I will be). There are - at least - two sides to every story, and we are just people after all. But we try to be unbiased and let this place run pretty freely and smoothly, which I think largely it does. People are free to criticise, but no one is forced to be a member here either; in doing so you have to agree to a certain level of decorum. I think that is a fair expectation, in return for being a member of what is generally a pretty rockin' place, full of good ladies and chaps. If you repeatedly choose to challenge this, then you also have to acknowledge there will be consequences. Frankly, [with changes on the board] we've been extremely lenient the past few years and perhaps that has lead to a certain degree of complacency (which we own). All this being said, banning can be temporary. Or not. We've seen examples of both if you've been around here long enough.
A long time member disappeared and no one knows why. I think people are just looking for a simple explanation of what happened and what the outcome was. If he said something over the line, I totally get it. It’s the mystery and lack of explanation that generated this thread.
Like many, I found his constant jabs at Rich to be obnoxious, and granted some of the topics he brought up were clearly just to create drama to entertain himself. But he was on of the few people here who actually took it upon themselves to bring content or discussion to this forum. This forum is taking one step closer to becoming a ghost town.
Just think of him as John McEnroe but an Aussie. Think about it. He shows a great deal of restraint and should be commended for it. C'mon people, there are far worse Glenn Manders out there in the world . . . . https://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/news/croydon-news/thornton-heath-drug-dealer-who-513234
Look Glenn can be a hot head but honestly I don’t think he is off base entirely when he makes a point I just think he goes out of his way to push the envelope when making it. That said I will flat out say I am shocked Quentor is still here and Glenn isn’t. Quentor has been all out abusive and toxic and nothing. Just kinda seems odd.
Can we throw a poll to get Glenn back or not in the community? I honestly missed the old days with polls and dramas...
Why was he banned? If the justification is 'rules are rules', I think we need to know what rules he supposedly broke.
People here probably don’t really know who I am because I stopped posting years ago but I co-organise SVM with Glenn so I know him pretty well. Yeah he can be a hothead and antagonising Rich was a bit much but he cares more about this scene and the toys more than almost anyone I know. The Australian scene definitely wouldn’t be where it is now without him and this place as Joe pointed out is set to become a ghost town. But he’s the only one banned, seems kind of personal to me, the tipping point of his banning seemed to just be him defending something he's worked years on over some bullshit claims from Kichigai? And if its not personal why is the SVM thread still locked? Theres an SVM show in just over a week, are we now not able to discuss it? He’s not the only person involved and keeping that thread locked is a disservice to the artists that have been involved in the shows.
Today's drama was brought to you by the letter L and the color purple, I think....... Dear MODs, Please let Glenn back in or throw the cards on the table as to what he said or implied. I made no request for, nor do I have any desire for him to no longer be on here. Folks that spend time on the internet are so wonky. Go outside and escape this hell. While you still have time.
These days in Paris, being outside is definitely not recommended if you have seen what's going with the yellow jackets movement! Long live the nerd community on the internet !!!!!! Down with the MOD !!!! ... my bad, got excited ^_^
The decision to ban Glenn was not taken lightly. I have spoken to him since the ban and told him it doesn't have to be permanent. I agree with you all that he does contribute greatly here. Even when his posts are more controversial, I enjoy most of them. It came down to this, he was warned several times about personal attacks not being tolerated and continued with them. We could have just as easily banned him with the last dispute he had with Rich, it just happened to be this one. It was not a single instance. I think everyone is given multiple chances on SB, it's usually the community that turns against them well before anything else happens. Now if we want to talk about mods having more of a visual presence, most of the time we just talk behind the scenes. We quietly warn people for what they did rather than publicly slap them on the wrist. We're give the title mod, but we're not really much more than members of the community. The most we usually do is a very quiet crowd control of locking a thread, or pulling someone aside in dm asking if they're alright, or have them handle something differently. We're very approachable, which is why Glenn was able to come to me after he was banned to talk about some stuff.