Anyone up for a music recommendation list for these related genres? Cylab Shifting Time Spahn Ranch Embodied Specimen Tell Tail Neuroticfish I Don't Need the City
Check out some of the stuff on the Posh Isolation label. It's a current favourite of mine. Croatian Amor is the best for my ears from that label. Croatian Amor Vår or War There is lots of good noise stuff on that label as well. Youth Code are kinda fun. Maybe a little to cooool, but fun. I also really like Vatican Shadow's slow repetitive techno-industrial nonsense. SÉVÈRE (s.v.r. or s/v\r) from Quebec are great. There tape on Handmade Birds was my top album from 2012
now we're talking! LA's premier goth/industrial club, Das Bunker, closed down after 17 years about one month ago. In my time, I've been able to see Babyland, Velvet Acid Christ, 16 Volt, KMFDM, Hanzel Und Gretyl, Ministry, Youth Code, Ministry, Hocico, and many many more. I'm looking forward to seeing Youth Code again (check them out if you don't know who they are!!!) and Godflesh in the near future.
Thanks guys! I've got to think that if you like Sweden's Covenant, then you should turn an ear towards Spahn Ranch, Neuroticfish, or Wolfsheim.
Great thread, I use to go more often to LA and always tried to go to shows, I was able to see Baybyland several times at the Smell, Front line assembly, KMFDM, Combichrist, <PIG>, Suicide Commando, sadly now for me is more difficult to keep going to LA
PIG used to be my favorite band for years! He broke my heart when he cancelled his tour a few years ago right before the LA show. Never found my hog mojo again after that
Thoughts: Youth Code listened to nothing but pre-1993 Front Line Assembly while recording that. What's with kids in "dark" subcultures since the mid '90s and those fat boy bondage pants? Fuckin' 'ell! Numb Driven Anything Box Small Snog The Prole Song Project Pitchfork Renascence Goodbye July CyberShadows
Der Eisenrost Megatron - Theme from Tetsuo: The Iron Man Ego Likeness Burn Witch Burn Battery Pity Fantazja Kathy (A sweet poppy song about murder.) Vampire Rodents Zygote (Speaking of Babyland...)
This applies to just dance music. Pet Peeve of mine: I hate when people re-classify music. This is not directed at anyone here so don't take offense. Example all this EDM, EBM etc etc. It's just dance music in my book. Yeah you have sub genres like House, Techno, Breaks, Jungle etc and even those have sub genres, but I just get annoyed when people constantly try to come up with new names for music that exists already. The biggest offenders are in my area of DJ'ing- Drum N Bass/Jungle. Kids are always trying to come up with a new "step" sub genre. Get over it, 90% of your 'steps' are Jump Up- end of story. Just because you discovered it in 2009 doesn't mean you get to rename it. End rant....
ha! I remember running into those guys when I went to see the Dust Brothers 100 years ago. They slapped bright green TECHNO WHORE stickers all over the venue.
I see where you're coming from in terms of dance music, but for us it's more about correcting the decades old misuse of "industrial" to mean things like Ministry or Nine Inch Nails etc when that term only really applies to stuff like Throbbing Gristle, which is kind of like calling Ravers "Blitz Kids". So someone (Front 242?) came up with the label Electronic Body Music for the synth heavy 80s scene. I'm pedantic!
I think you might like: Die Form - Ad Infinitum Wumpscut - Music for a Slaughtering Tribe Individual Totem - Mothfly In Strict Confidence - Exile Paradise Haujobb - Polarity Aesthetic Perfection - Close to Human X Marks the Pedwalk - Drawback Assemblage 23 - Storm yelworC - Icolation Dive - First Album This Morn' Omina - Seven Years of Famine Iszoloscope - Au Seuil Du Neant Ah Cama-Sotz - Terra Infernalis
I prefaced my statement (if you actually read it) with "this applies to dance music", meaning my rant was going to specifically be about dance music. Maybe you misunderstood? Also I did mention several specific sub genres under the different genres of dance music. Perhaps you missed that too? My rant was most specifically about how younger people try an rename an established genre of music. I.e kids trying to start that whole hip step in jungle when it had been clearly established as jump up only a few years before. Also I spent 20 years of my life WORKING in the music industry (and not just record store clerk type jobs- buyer, I worked for labels etc), so I think I know what I'm talking about. I'll take the pepsi challenge with anyone on music, obscure and what not. Yes I'm a music snob as well.
EDM- Electronic Dance Music, yeah but if you were around the dance music scene in the early to mid nineties NO ONE EVER CALLED IT THAT. It was just dance music. You didn't need to specify the "Electronic" part. Maybe it was because when explaining to older normal people back then, no one would understand- so you kept it brief. You had sub genres obviously (I've mentioned them) and when you talked to like minded people in the scene obviously they got it.. People just love to stick random acronyms to everything thinking they've reinvented some new thing. Nope it's already been around.
Now don't get all riled up fellas! I see what Lixx is saying, and I've said it before too. Here's my fave version of this dilemma; Why do kids call it "twerking" now when we always just called it booty-shaking? (Fuck I sound old!) Cite: Wreckx-N-Effect 'Rump Shaker' I don't get that EDM thing either, at least Intelligent Dance Music had a slightly specific meaning (melodicly and/or rhythmically more complex dance ie Orbital), even if it was condescending.
Dean: Thanks for the C&C! I was really excited by the whole Throbbing Gristle reformation. I got one of those limited editions of "Endless Not" with a little stick totem inside, mine was rubber. (Wanna trade?) But then Genesis had to go and be Gen and flaked out, and then Sleazy went and joined Jhonn in the great afterness, so I guess that we are back down to Chris & Cosey again! Throbbing Gristle Vow of Silence As a huge Coil fan I actually have a Black Sun tattoo, and after I heard of Sleazy's passing I had a dream of him and Jhonn performing a new version of Solar Lodge in their monk's robes on some Martian landscape. The whole time I had this pervasive feeling that they were sending me a message saying something like "You're cool with us, you can be in the club too." EPILEPSY WARNING: Coil Solar Lodge xpollardx: Yes, many of those were big with my friends and I back in the day. Die Form is a favorite certainly! Assemblage 23 Love My Way (Pyschedelic Furs cover)
I got to see Throbbing Gristle perform live at Coachella Music Festival a few years ago. It was amazing, and the dearth of people present to take it all in was disappointing. It didn't take away from the sheer force and energy they created that blew most modern bands out of the water... I got to see Psychic TV last year too... with his tig ole bitties at Echoplex in Echo Park, CA. Another amazing show, for sure.
If you don't already have it, track down "TG Now," the EP they released prior to "Endless Not." The first couple of pieces are classic TG spookiness. Not as crazy about Gen's wailing songs but ya gotta love the old crooner. Losing Sleazy was a real drag. I loved what he was doing with Soisong. At least C&C are in fine form these days.
My wife got me into all this back in 97. This was one of her favorites There is so many songs I like from all Synthpop, Goth, Industrial, EBM, etc. I have seen many live in concert too. A few of my Favorites Front 242 - Headhunter Covenant - Dead Stars VNV Nation - Honour apoptygma berzerk-eclipse Wolfsheim - Once in a Lifetime Wumpscut - War Mindless self indulgence - bring the pain Suicide Commando - Die Motherfucker Die