We had our friends over, with some wine and popcorn to see the last show. I just wanted Mr.Echo to get back in... but no show which is sad. Even Boone and Shannon were there. So you had to be in love with someone to be on the last episode...sux being a priest
I think it was Eko's actor that didn't want to be in LOST anymore.. I wanted to see him in this season as well since he was in the damn promo poster for season 6. Surprised Michael didn't show up in the end.
I don't want to go on about what others are saying. I LOVED the finale... as a series finale! It hit all the right points (beside not answering anything) and pulled at every heartstring in my body. I understand the flash sideways/purgatory possibility, but what I don't understand is the Flash Forwards... When the Oceanic 6 made it back to LAX and then lived for 3 years while the other survivors stayed on the island and moved through time, when was all that going on? I mean, they left the island, then came back... so while I get the theory that people died on the island, or off of it (pre flash sideways) I can't wrap my head around the flash forward season. Did they Oceanic 6 REALLLY leave the island and then REALLY return... or was that still part of purgatory???? WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!!!! Damn you LOST!
The Oceanic 6 left for sure. Here is my next question.. the complete blu-ray collection, is it or is it not worth $195?
if you enjoy it, then probably so a 90 minute movie with extras can cost 20 Lost is about 125 hours (7500 minutes) or so i think
Good point. I will probably come around to getting it. Might wait to see if there will be an ultimate package set with goodies and includes the blu-ray seasons.
i never understood mullholland drive or any of his other movies... however, there is this one scene in that movie that I watch over and over and over again.. which i try to interpret.
Purgatory was the first idea that popped into my mind six years ago, and it was cop out then like it is now. I was sure that all the hype would lead to something conclusive in the end, instead, they gave us more ambiguity. Characters like Hurley, Desmond, or Christian had the insight to be able to impart upon the viewer just what the hell was happening, and one or two lines was all it would've taken to leave viewers with real closure, but they couldn't even deliver that. I love the cast and characters, but the narrative started unraveling this season and they couldn't reel it back in. Too much telling, not enough showing, and apparently not even enough telling. Maybe they're planning on covering all the loose ends in the movie (that they owe us)
I gotta take issue with this. The purgatory that was discussed 6 years ago was a completely different idea than the purgatory that came to be. The island was NOT purgatory - just the side-ways universe - so they never copped out on the existence of the island. The island is still a fully tangible place. What it was, what it represented, how it operated, etc can be discussed and debated for years. We never saw "dead" characters until the side-ways flashes started - up to that point everything we watched were real events in the lives of the characters. I like that is was kind of a "soft" ending that left lots of room for thought and interpretation. I was kinda hoping for a jaw-dropping ending, which didn't materialize. But I would have felt cheated if they wrapped everything up and didn't leave room for people to digest, interpret and discuss not only the ending, but the entire series. And apparently they're going to discuss some of the smaller details that didn't receive an explanation in the DVD/bluray release - like why you end up in Tunisia after turning the wheel.
I liked one of Jimmey Kimmel's alternative endings - he had Bob Newhart wake up talking about his dream, but it was Kate in bed w/ him, not Emily (and then they subsquently freaked out).
This is exactly why I loved that they didnt wrap up everything. My favorite thing about Lost is talking about with people and swapping theories. I can still keep doing that.
it's cheap though anyone could throw out random metaphysical/astro physics theories and discuss them with a group. we dont need 6 seasons of a show to be invested in only to tell us in the final 15 mins that none of it mattered anyway - everyone just let go and get along because you'll find each other in heaven my brain was pooped on diarrhea style heavily sweetened poop with splenda
There are few details I would look forward to learning about. Things like why the birth is so special, and the Dharma Initiative's purpose come to mind. Only the big ones they used to bait us for seasons at a time. Not revealing any of this is just one aspect of the show that bugs me. As much as I find the concept of Purgatory to be mundane, it's the entirely new character introduced in the 11th hour as the chief antagonist that irritates me the most. Maybe the story wasn't well executed. Everyone died in the flash-sideways, but the people on the plane lived? How exactly are we sure? Is it supposed to be confusing? I don't want a multimedia experience to find all this out, just a self-contained storyline that resolves it's conflicts. The finale would have been as entertaining as any other episode if it didn't turn the entire series into an exercise in subtext with sprawling narratives that become practically interchangeable with those of "Fantasy Island"
the interpretation at this point is really on the shit that ultimately we were told doesn't matter what matters now in the story is that heaven wins. science was pointless boo
So your problem is with the show, or with religion? What would have made you happy? If Jack woke up and realized it was all a dream and JR was taking a shower and wasn't shot after all?Yeah, I know, its "cheap" and a "cop out" but what did you expect to happen? Religion was weaved into the show very early on. The first few seasons were about having faith, faith in pushing the button even though you weren't sure what would happen. Jack not having faith in the Island and John being a man full of faith. The Dharma initiative ? Its got Dharma in the name. All the Egyptian underworld and religious imagery in the show. The Yin and Yang of Jacob and MIB. The main characters fathers name was Christian Shepperd (sp)! It was all there man.
it was so heavy handed at the end and easy my problem isnt exactly with religion but the use of it as an argument when the arguer feels like they are out of options i was greatly invested in the characters as well as the mythos of the story... sci fi and the exploration into a spiritual world was all very interesting but in one 15 minute toilet dump, the writers essentially nullified anything of importance from the past seasons. who gives a shit now what they went through? at that point, they could have just worked at a boring office job with an asshole boss for 5 years. if you just let go any questions you might have... don't worry about anything... it's all going to be fine in the end because you'll hang out with your buddies in heaven
prime example of an ending done right that leaves things up to interpretation and has the viewer still wondering how the characters are doing: Sopranos
If that's how you choose to look at the show, but I can't agree with that. The characters got to a point in their death where they realized that certain things they were holding onto didn't matter. These things were weighing their spirits down. But to say that nothing in their lives mattered - that everything that took place during the 6 seasons didn't matter or mean anything - well, that's your way of looking at it. That's your "religious view", if you will. What would have made you happy? If they told you what the light was? Or if they explained the function of the island? I think the level of explanation was perfect and it would have gone too far to give them any further definition. There are certainly some things I'm unsatisfied with, but I don't think the overall ending is one of them.
did you see the set they put up in the commercial saying s6 and the complete series are released on august 24? it had a lot going on. i feel there was an island involved. I cannot find a pic to back this up though..so if anyone has it tivo'd fire it up and help me out. also amazon says there are blu ray exclusives picked by damon and carlton plus the usual extras like interviews, behind the scenes and making of.
You can stream the first 4 seasons via Netflix in HD and I think you can watch all the episodes via ABC.com
I see pickles point as well as what everyone is saying. While I hate religion and would have preferred it not to be included in the end, I was ok with the way they did it. I think I would gone into a complete rage if they pulled "it was all just a dream" which is biggest writer cop out of all time. My sis says 6 feet under had the best ending of a show ever when it showed all the characters at the end of their lives, and I guess that might have been cool to do with the survivors who left but it had already been done. I think my point is, with such a character driven show, what was missing for me was closure with some of the characters you related to over the years. With so many though it would have been impossible. At least we got really good closure with Jack.
The ending also left alot of room for a further narrative with the people who survived the island experience ( Hurley, Kate,Sawyer,etc). Maybe a spinoff show?Or a movie tie in? I liked the ending. Religious or not. It really hit me because as Jack was lying there in the bamboo dying, he seemed happy or at least at peace.
I think it was a great ending. It's like Christian said "Everyone dies sometime - [They] created this place so you could all find each other" Then they could move on to whatever comes next, together. The island DID happen, which is why Hugo told Ben that "[he] was a good Number 1" and so forth. Ben was Hurley's Richard Alpert. My guess is that Ben had the same gift as Richard and couldn't die until Hurley passes on his responsibility (but again, this one is just a guess). The ones that left on a plane DID have full lives or however long they lasted, but Christian ALSO said that "the moments they spent in the island were the most important in each of their lives, which is why most of they waited for each other, for the most part. He also says it didn't matter whether they died before or after the island, this is where they came to be together. There were various references to many religions throughout every season and they show them in the window behind Jack when hes looking at the coffin. Quote: If you just let go any questions you might have... don't worry about anything... it's all going to be fine in the end because you'll hang out with your buddies in heaven They don't know if they're going to heaven, they don't even know if there IS a heaven that why Christian says "I hope so" and they are all scared but they just want to go the next step together. And I say the Blu-ray IS definitely worth $195. Six seasons, 121 Episodes each 42 minutes long at least, plus extras. BTW the Complete box set is gonna have 20 minutes of cut scenes from the final episode that "answers some of the viewers questions"
