Grim Creeper Vinyl - Ultimate Skull and Cobra/Tim Stephson

timstephson · Aug 24, 2013

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Waterbear said:

timstephson said:

The characters story is the reason the face looks that way. If i wanted it to look like a human skull I would have done so. Check out my Roid Randys to see my human skull sculpts. It doesnt have teeth or sutures because it doesnt eat with its face or have any elasticity in the cranial area. Alot of thought and discussion went into this aspect of the toy. I wanted it to be as realistic as possible so if there was a rigid exoskeleton wrapped in skin it would only have tension at the base of each side. Similar to that of a human forehead. They lack emotion and use "e.s.p" to communicate as well as attack. There is no muscle in the face because it doesnt require muscles to show emotion eat or blink. Also in most great design varied texture is necessary. Once it is cast in gid vinyl I feel it will lose the static it seems to have in the photos.
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That all sounds pretty cool. Why isn't that on the pledge page? Might help.
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That's a really good point! Ill do that now. Thanks dude

Art-Whore · Aug 25, 2013

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michael said:

chill out dude. people are expressing their opinions, not being snarky assholes.

heres my two cents.

to echo whats been said before: this hits the marks. tentacles, wrinkles, spikes, claws, and skulls. all seemingly thrown on your original toy, which was smooth all over like a platform toy. you kept the skull smooth, it could be lifeless and robotic, but it just looks out of place. to me, this is a character based toy, but it lacks just that: character. it seems really static and lifeless. maybe thats what you were going for, but what do i know.

i follow you on instagram and you make nice things, and are really innovative in what you do for the most part. i dont see why the grim creeper has to be made in vinyl, when you are a more than capable resin artist. this would look great in resin, sure, it would be tough to do, but your devastator is gigantic and crazy.

most of the people come here to look at toys produced by people in japan, or toys that are american designed but mimic the good days of japanese vinyl toys and design. this toy doesnt look to reference anyhting- which isnt necessarily a bad thing, its just not what people here will be into. the toy world is big, and skullbrain isnt the only market for these types of things.

if people like it, theyll buy it. if you think its cool, then thats all that matters- just dont get bent out of shape when people voice their opinions, negative or not.
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Daimyo said:

I'm only saying this because you seem to be looking for input. I try to stay positive and out of the bullshit but in a passion driven hobby like this, people are going to be invested in their opinions. This toy isn't bad but it doesn't hit the mark either. Honestly it seems like someone is trying to market to the types of collectors we have on this board but are themselves an outsider looking in. Like they thought this would be cool and appeal to us but don't really know what gets us salivating. That may be completely wrong and this could just be something the creators thought was awesome. Nothing wrong with that of course but as with all artistic/design related endeavors, the response from collectors is what it is. I have things in my head that seem amazing but if I put them into vinyl, will others be on board? Who knows. Such is the risk of something like toy making. It is for this reason many makers start small, working with resin. As they build interest in their work, they take steps to push further. Jumping in feet first with a vinyl toy is risky to say the least. This toy may have a market but I think many SB'ers may echo that it is nicely done but not their thing.
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...Michael + Daimyo - thanks as always for the thoughts...I can totally understand the reason some people don't dig this toy, and other 3d-sculpted/computer-sculpted pieces and prefer ones that originate as hand sculpts - the smooth and perfect look VS. rough, rugged and weird.
I prefer hand sculpted pieces generally - hell that's why i got into Japanese toys in the 1st place, but occasionally a computer sculpted piece just catches my eye, the Creeper is one of them.

And i also think people have not been "snarky assholes" on here at all, pisstakers at most. Importantly a lot of very thought out constructive thoughts...

Lastly. People should check out Tim's other work even if they don't dig the Creeper. His paintings are brilliant rugged psychedelica + his resin work is brutal. Especially the Devastator - least in my stoner ass opinion.

Anti Social Andy · Aug 25, 2013

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IronPaw said:

Seems a lot more opportunistic than anything else.
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zapatoloco · Aug 25, 2013

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Is it so hard to understand that the denizens of this board find it insulting to be treated like marks by people who don't care for or share their interests ?

nefasth · Aug 25, 2013

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zapatoloco said:

Is it so hard to understand that the denizens of this board find it insulting to be treated like marks by people who don't care for or share their interests ?
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Stop making sense.

timstephson · Aug 25, 2013

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zapatoloco said:

Is it so hard to understand that the denizens of this board find it insulting to be treated like marks by people who don't care for or share their interests ?
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Oh stop the press. Someone posted a topic in a toy forum about a toy. You guys are ridiculous elitist pricks. Don't worry I don't plan on coming back here. You can all go fuck yourself.

Russblue11 · Aug 25, 2013

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What a fitting avatar

Odibex · Aug 25, 2013

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Whoa! Phantomfauna's post has mysteriously disappeared. Conspiracy!

phantomfauna · Aug 25, 2013

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Odibex said:

Whoa! Phantomfauna's post has mysteriously disappeared. Conspiracy!
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Nah. Just deleted after receiving a strange PM from Tim...

timstephson said:

Oh babe. I fuck myself.
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I replied saying was going to the bathroom to lay a basket of clown eggs and smoke some space drugs. This seemed like the sensible thing to do at the time until I was attacked by a worm named GOR.

brobles · Aug 25, 2013

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so when is this thread getting locked? looks like it's gone pretty far south.

Odibex · Aug 25, 2013

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phantomfauna said:

Odibex said:

Whoa! Phantomfauna's post has mysteriously disappeared. Conspiracy!
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Nah. Just deleted after receiving a strange PM from Tim...
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Curiouser and curiouser.

MILTRON · Aug 25, 2013

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Why is this in American idols??? Belongs in whatever...

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