Just a little heads uo-Theres 2 people that i know of that post here that are running Ebay scams and i have all the info/evidence to prove it..Do me and all of us a favor and knock it off or i will post the info for all to see and I'll tell E-Bay too..I'm not calling anyone out and DO NOT PM ME TO SEE WHO IT IS. Because i wont tell but lets just say if you dig enough its all there for everyone to see so knock it the fuck off and be the fans you guys claim to be!!!!R.F.S.O.!! BTW I'm not pissed just aggravated that it was that easy to find this info so obviously these 2 think we're all morons...
This is intriguing. WHen u say scams, what exactly do u mean? Something as (relatively) harmless as bidding up other brainers, or something more, like shill bidding or actually ripping people off? This is a weird post because it throws suspicion around, and I'd like to know more abouts whats behind it....not necessarilly who's behind it.
I personally think you should post your findings so none of us get duped by scammers. I'm probably a little too trusting on this board and I don't want to do buisness w/ or even give my email address to anybody like that. I would feel like a huge dumbass if I found out I had done some con-artist a favor because I thought they were a real fan. anyhow I'll be careful thanks for the heads up J.
Lets just say theres a few pepole bidding up their own auctions in one way or another whether its self upping or having a friend do it but i stumbled across some info on E-Bay and cant reveal it w/out messing up a lotta peeps day so its going to stay w/me for now..This is serious and i dont post shit like this lightheartedly..I also am pissed because it puts me in a bad spot w/either dividing our forum or starting BIG time drama and I'm freaking tired of the KR style crap over here lately..like I said dont ask and dont PM me because its staying w/me..For now!!If this winds up stirring up all kinds of crap and i've gotta take shit for someone elses scams i will just keep it to myself next time!!!!-Thx-John
I think simply posting the accusation and only some of the details is going to cause problems. The genie is out of the bottle.
Yup, why even post this then? If your intentions are to protect others from getting "scammed" then spill the beans, your helping no one by keeping the info to yourself..
I think reason for the post was giving notice to whoever the guilty party is to cut the shit or he will take care of it. I'm confident he'll make it right. My 2 cents
So in other words they get away with cheating people in the past as long as they promise not to do it again? Fuck that. Spill it.
Loco understands this..why cant everyone else.I'm 98% posistve but i'm not about to stake MY rep unless i'm 100% positive..This was a WARNING to the parties attempting this not a panic starter...Use some common sense when bidding and thats all you will need..These 2 have tried this w/ME not anyone else here so ts MY choice whether to reveal this..I have my eye on these guys and WILL ABSOLUTELY blow the lid offa this if its tried again..BTW evereyone messes up in life and we all deserve a second chance no matter what it may be..I've been given the same courtesy by people my whole life and im doing the same for these 2..They are collectors and decent dudes as far as i can tell so before i RUIN soneone I'm going to take every possible precaution!!!!I realize I posted this and brought this on myself but its happening and needed to be exposed for it to stop.For all i know maybe they got caught up in the fast money spect of it.Simply reporting it to Ebay will solve nothing seeing as they dont give a shit as long as theyre paid..This is NOT some long term scam ive been watchng unfold but a fairly recent series of events that took me 3 days to decide what action to take..No amount of badgering or harassing will change my mind and some people agree w/me so whos right..Either way right now Im the bad guy for exposing someone elses bullshit..BTW-Do ont PM me means DO NOT PM ME ABOUT THIS...I'm a big boy and will handle this..In the future i simply wont post anything..Folks should be happy to have half a clue and I cant help if people choose to anic..Personally iI've been thru hell and back in my life and NOTHING scares me or sends me into a panic..Relax and enjoy and use your heads, its that simple....
BTW keep in mind I took a big risk to help you guys out so take it easy will you..Like I said I'm the one who has to deal w/this no matter what route i take...If anyone thinks it was easy i made myself SICK trying to decide this...
You could have just sent PMs to the people you felt were the responsible parties. Instead, you broadcasted the message to several hundred people. Don't be surprised if this subject tends to linger a bit.
Unfortunately the messenger always ends up getting shot! Thanks for looking out for us John! I've been on other message boards where someone like John takes a stand and ends up getting burned at the stake and I think it's a bunch of bullshit. Calling them out annonymously is a good way to try to resolve this issue without starting a huge war of words. Thanks again for looking out for your fellow collectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those that really want to know....Go to ebay and search for the info yourself....It is there....Ebay does not remove the information on the bids of the items JHOTTROD bid on.
Yeah,thanks John.If youve got heartburn over what John did,giving some one a chance to straighten up,then you can sit on it.If you want to know so bad then go do the research! Damn,man.A bunch of complainers man,KR here we come!
I really dont care...What makes you think I havent already..Having one person watch you is maybe a minimal threat but having a whole forum of your peers is HUGE pressure..Let it linger, I will sleep tonite knowing in my heart that I absolutely did the right thing..PERIOD!!!!!!!!!
