Did the U.S. government have a hand in the 9/11 attacks?

You guys ever heard the rumors that 100s of "high ups" from the trade center were off site that day - like someone planned to make sure none of them got hurt if something was to happen.

 

All that tells me is that the US government dropped the ball. The signs were all there, but noone was looking at them. When you have intel that says there will be an alQaeda plot involving planes but you don't believe it/bother to follow up, when the event actually happens, it doesn't take long to tie them together.

Also, you Brits didn't seem to put up much of an argument with Blair. Hell, you even voted him BACK in after he'd sent troops to Iraq. Americans aren't the only gullible ones...

 

Oh yeah dont get me wrong- the British are a state of cronic apathy, no one votes anymore and no one cares.

Even if it did come out the 911 was done by whoever I doubt the english people would really care. Forget whatever sterotype you have of Brits- the majority of us are some dumbbed down, thick-as-shit motherfuckers.

 

Except the report doesn't say jet fuel weakened the steel (hollow steel tubing, actually). It says the jet fuel burned out after 10min. It was the "open" design that allowed the fuel to disperse quickly over a large area starting numerous fires (fueled by all the contents of the building) that burned for almost 2 hours combined with the actual impact, and deteriorating or even missing fireproofing on the aforementioned steel tubing that weakend the structure.

 

Occam's razor would also suggest that hi-jackers did it. That's by far more simple than any of the conspiracy theories.

Occam's razor is a bunch of hooey.

 

Its simple to suggest that the hijackers suspended these laws of gravity and physics?

or infact that they were not suspended ( because that is impossible, duh) and explosives caused the collapse.

Regardless of the 'Who done it' and the blame game- follow the science.

 

they still make/made jet engines for use with apaches/other planes of war

yeah one doesn't make many that statement was misguided, but in reality they're all as shit as the other

 

Sorry...manufacturing jet engines does not equal "arms manufacturer" in my book.

 

Wait....so you are or aren't all football crazed hooligans?

 

Darn thats us alright- for some reason I thought the rest of the world had us down as tea drinking interlectuals with perfect manners.

Football hooligans is right!

 

footy, footy, footy.....

 

Two out of three ain't bad!

 

Blimey you wanna him! The northeners are the worst of the bunch, dont get me wrong im a grade A south London scumbag- but the northeners are really ruff! I heard they hunt bears with their bare hands!

 

It also pretty much defies the laws of physics that the Pyramids were built.

 

I don't know about "high ups," but one persistent urban legend states that many Jews did not show up to work that day.

This idea was heavily discussed in NJ. Our poet laureate referenced it and after refusing to resign, the state eliminated the poet laureate position.

 

99.9% of the German Government had nothing to do with the burning of the Reichstag.

 

“ the government totally sucks you motherf**ker” – Jack black

 

Yes, although this appears to be unsubstantiated rumor. On the other hand, at the time SF's Mayor, Willie Brown, said he got a call from a government agency on 9/10 telling that he should cancel any plans to travel by air on 9/11. I never knew what to make of that, and Brown refused to answer questions about it after a few days.

 

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html

 

I haven't followed this whole post but I do remember that news conference when Brown said that. I thought it was so odd and he never did explain any of it.

I do agree though there they have been tons of unexplainable things that happen and don't add up but it doesn't mean something greater is at play.

Off topic but some mentioned pyramids...the yonaguni monument or underwater pyramids in japan any think they are man made or natural?

 

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/anal ... index.html

http://standdown.net/


On another note...nobody knows what is flying around the desert at Mach 5 + for the last 6 months

 

Well I think if it as a means to an end regarding critical thinking. Unfortunately some people are almost religious about it. It becomes "proof" rather than a tool.

If William of Occam had a beard, it wasn't for lack of a razor.

 

I respect that- A lot of the time when you have this discussion people blindly dismiss anything othger than the 'Official Story' without having even seen the alternative edivence and films ect.

The first time someone mentioned all this stuff to me I told them to shut up and that the were talking shit- then they told me just to go and look at the edivence.

After you see that stuff I think it is very hard to dismiss as just a 'Conspiracy theory.' But in general its stupid to have a discussion of any sort if you havnt researched both sides of ther argument.

Still you wrong.

 

OMG, YMBKM!