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  1. silver_lining_man

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    ^i will ask around. see what i can find. i'm running on a tight budget right now and really haven't worked out room for my MM's yet. so obtaining these aren't a high priority for awhile. if i find anything, i'll let you know.
     
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    seriously if you do much appreesh... sidenote i love me some mighty max toys
     
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    I remember checking these Body Wars toys out in the store back in the day. They are pretty cool, but don't work really as playsets so much (unlike Mighty Max or Micro Machines). The "organs" are more like sweet containers for the dudes. If you like these kind of things though, definitely check out the Trendmasters Godzilla ones, or, my personal favourite, the Conan sets (see the discussion in the other thread for links).
     
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    Okay so I know very little about this bugger, I need to know more. I got him when I was a kid from a small toy shop in a mall in my home town, I had two guys this one and a shark dude the later is gone. I'm not sure which shield belongs to him but I know the axe is his.
    My theory is that it is a bootleg of the MOTU KO line from Remco, but actual info would be awesome if there are any he-man fans on the board who could help.

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    ^your flickr pics aren't working...
     
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    Sorry my bad :oops:
    They should be up and running now though.
     
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    Never mind, Found the line. It was Galaxy Heroes which is a boot of the Galaxy warriors line.
    One of the others in package:
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    haha! as much as i have a place in my heart for all motu ko lines, the non-moving legs on these annoys me. i mean, the fact that they knocked off a knock off is awesome, but its one line i don't get into much. the only galaxy heroes i care to own is horned devil & satyr. those are the only 2 that i know of that are galaxy heroes originals, and not a cheap molding of a pre-existing galaxy warrior. i am curious to see the shark guy you mentioned though...
    also, here is a pic of my fav galaxy heroes fig, the award-winning-originally-named "horned devil"
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    i just now noticed the adventure time posts.
    i see you all are interested in it.
    i am too.
    but
    i have learned that these are produced by jazwares.
    so it is basically going to be a highly breakable piece of junk disguised as an adventure time character.
    beware, jazwares products should not be classified as toys.
     
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    Yeah from the looks of it their typical QC is involved, the paint is horrid and they really botched a toy line that had huge potential.
     
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    i figured it time to share some more info of forgotten motu-ko gems.
    here is sun-man & his sun people....& the one villain, pig-face.
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    these were created by a small company named Olmec Corporation.
    i found the story of Olmec Toys to be pretty interesting.
    the bits of info i've been able to find on the web is that Olmec, first launching with Sun-Man in 1985 was the result of a woman named Yla Eason being frustrated at the fact that she could not find any super-heroes of color for her son Menelik to play with.

    Yla Eason decided to leave her well-established position in the corporate world, and start one of the few minority-owned toy companies in the United States.

    Being that Masters of the Universe were the major toy magnet of the time, and the vast cast of human characters were caucasian, sun-man was the first expidition. Olmec also had a G.I. Joe knockoff titled The Bronze Bombers, and Butterfly Woman as an alternative to She-Ra.

    Competing against Mattel right off the bat, tying your new company immediately in a legal war over likeness rights probably wasn't the very best decision for an upcoming toy company, in my opinion.

    These toys are very hard to come by. Though Sun-Man & Pig-Face are the ones that pop up the most, they are still very seldom on the market, and tend to fetch very high prices. The others in the line are pretty much next to impossible to obtain. If you are patient and have deep pockets, you might get most of them in a handful of years. According to many action figure collectors who have followed the line/studied up on it, Duplico, Hypno, Kikto and Zap-Man, have never surfaced to the them, and many believe these figures have actually never made it to production.
    I've had a few times in the past seen these pop up on ebay. I was shocked to see a moc Holographo sell a few weeks ago on ebay for a whopping $355! and here i thought i was clever attempting to throw in a $250 with 10 seconds left :oops: . the only other time i've seen any surface was a digitino, beat to hell, and having no accessories. i put my bid in, and with 5 days left, the seller pulled the auction. i'm assuming they were offered a large amount, and did the whole under-the-table dealing (which is very pathetic, unfair, and happens frequently in the action figure world).

    the picture above is from the cardback i have on my pig-face, which is the full line up of ones reported to have been witnessed to be in existence, while this other cardback:
    http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/olmec_sun-man_team.jpg
    appears to be the full "imagined" line-up, pre-production plans and all...

    The figures were released on a variety of cardbacks. I recently scored a Pig_man moc, which i will be posting a pic of along with my recent toy haul in the mail section, which rocked a pretty plain orange/yellow cardback. while sun-man has a card that i seem to think is similar to The New Adventures of He-Man line, all black starry night covered with a drawn artwork picture of sun-man flying in space and the Sun-Man logo across the top center (my sun-man was moc, but the bubble/blister was super yellowed and cracking all over the place, so i opened it up. i have the card and can scan it in if anyone is interested in seeing it, or i am sure you could google it). likewise, sun-man himself has been known to have been released with multiple head variations. 1 of them being the one shown in that group pick above, the one i have is the flat-top version (which, i honestly think is the same head used on kikto), and reports of 2 more heads i have not seen yet.



    i have heard on a few occassions a (probably far fetched) rumor that, when attacking Olmec over likeness rights to their Masters of the Universe line, Mattel had obtained some rights to the Olmec characters. With that, the rumor running is that they are working on a Sun-Man vs. Pig-Man set for the MOTUC collection. Though i HIGHLY doubt that, i still won't give up my dreams of hoping it happens! ;)
     
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    that pig guy freaking rules
     
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    i totally forgot to add the "backstory," as it is printed on the package:
    The legend of Sun-Man Continues...

    His magical melanin skin gave him unequalled, unlimited and special super strength. Sun-Man's skin could not be cut, burned, bruised, broken, pierced, stabbed, ripped or removed.

    So Pig-Head the evil wart, was plotting to smoke-out Sun-Man. He wanted to see if he could weaken Sun-Man's powerful skin through the smoke from the drugs Pig-Head had just cooked up.

    But Sun-Man flies free, protecting the right for the Galaxy-Trefixa to exist in peace. His rap is clear:

    "Pig-Head listen, you're bad luck. You won't win, so just give up. Sun-Man is on the scene to stay. My good powers shall rule all the way!

    The battle has just Begun...
     
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    So now that we know WHO made them we can call them "designer toys" right?
     
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    i'm not so sure Eason designed these as much as wanted a toyline with characters of ethnic diversity. so lets not jump the gun yet! lets just go with "label pending" on that one.
     
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    Crazy write-up, man! Had no idea these things existed.

    Shit...Sun-Man should really hit that smoke from the drugs Pig-Man cooked up...they sure work wonders on my magical melanin skin! ;)
     
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    Wow, my mind was just blown by a reference I read on the Weird Oh toys blog (all images courtesy of them). There is a new company starting to make bootlegs of bootlegs - to be more specific, new versions of classic MOTU KO figures. Here is a shot of the prototype figure, and you can check out their FB group here for more info. Definitely something to check back in on.

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    Taken from the Pirates of the Galaxseas line:
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    That's the hottest tip since the Frenzy Brothers hit town! Thanks much.
     
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    The guy I spoke with about making these actually mentioned knocking off Sun Man too... and all of his various head versions. I'm not into Sun Man, so I didn't even know he had various heads. Pig Head is the one I'm interested in.
     
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    These are too freakin awesome. If anyone has a lead as to where to obtain one of the skeleton guys, hit me up! 8)
     
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    that bootleg line looks promising. i just hope they don't ask vintage prices! i remember some company a year or so ago that had made some fantasy style figures that followed the motu style. they looked pretty good, and i was going to hunt them down, even though i got word that the quality was poor. then i found out they were asking like $50 each! :shock: insane for an action figure imo...i will definitely keep up on checking that fb link.
     
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    remco is definitely the crown jewel of the motu-knock off figures (KOs in general?), the conan line is great. carded those go for bucks.
    we also really like the robot defenders and robot renegades:
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    photos are from http://figure-archive.net
    the robot defenders/renegades are great dudes if you can find them.
     
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    yeah, conan fetches nasty prices! well, i don't know if they actually sell at those high prices, i just know that ebay sellers list the things super high. hold out long enough though, someone will list one somewhere for reasonable. i paid $20 shipped for a moc conan thoth amon, and recently got a moc king conan for $50. the cards were trashed, but i tear them open anyways, its nice to have a minty fresh vintage action figure! :D
     
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    here is some more random action figure info:

    i just got 2 more Two Faces Devil figures in today. the head sculpt is similar to the mannix monster warrior two-face warriors, same with the paint scheme on the chest area, but the overall figure is yet another line of motu ko's. The quality is a mumbled mess. the heads are very nice, solid instead of squishy (i love me some rubber heads), but the detail (at least on the "beast" side) is pretty nice, with decent paint. the chest is hollow, light weight plastic. i was assuming that from the waist down, it was going to be like galaxy heroes figures, based on the photos i have seen on the net. they are not, the legs are actually jointed at the crotch socket. still can't really move the legs though. the crotch socket is smaller than the top of the legs, so the legs don't fit in there properly. this wouldn't be a problem if they were rubber band jointed like motu, but they have the white plastic ball joint like remco warrior beasts/tmnt. so any attempt at moving them in a suitable standing position was a little scary, fearing i would break a leg joint! the weapons are pretty awesome, skull dude and pig dude have extremely flexible rubber staffs, good detail on the skull staff, and painted too! bird face has a pathetic light plastic piece of crap for a sword. unless there are some paint variations i have not seen, there are only 4 figures in the set. i'm missing pony face. the back of the cardback is blank white, so there isn't a list of "collect them all!" pictures, and i have only seen pics of the 4 that are in the drawing on the front of the card back.

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    human face shot:
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    those are so great..
    love your collection these days
     

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