If you don’t want to get the vaccine and you are able to, then there probably aren’t enough body bags around you to realize how much this is the best way to help your community. And arguing ambivalence to it is more harmful than beneficial. Your road freedom is worth crud when there’s a road of skulls that have to pave it for you. But I’m sure Tom morello is great live and worth anyone’s health
One thing that really bothers me is the "medical freedom" straw man. NOBODY IS FORCING ANYONE TO GET VACCINATED. YOU HAVE THE "FREEDOM" TO NOT GET VACCINATED. But you can't have your cake and eat it too. So, to all of those "my body, my choice" people who suddenly hopped from one side of the argument to the other: I'm glad you finally agree, now start applying that consistently rather than being a hypocritical piece of shit.
In a perfect example of showing how two things can both be true, without necessarily negating each other, I genuinely feel sorry for and empathize with the trauma that Theoron Fleury has been through, while I also think that his recent tirades against Covid-19 vaccination efforts and derailing stuff with complete batshit crazy conspiracy theories makes me think he could be [acting like] a complete dumbass. And it is a shame that there are platforms where this type of messaging can be spread so widely. *NB - post above was since deleted, but there are - sadly - many, many others which are really staining his legacy and sad to see Spoiler: e.g.
NPR also did an interesting story in the background of ivermectin and how it got so much traction in the news: https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/how-ivermectin-became-politicized-on-the-media The latest episode of the QAnon Anonymous podcast (#15 does a deep dive into all of the surrounding crazy. I recommend that podcast in general, especially episode #128, which talks about the evolution of 2chan, 4chan, and 8chan and how QAnon grew out of it. Matt Alt makes an appearance on it. I also met someone last night who admitted he didn't want to get vaccinated because it was "too new," but wanted to see a concert in two weeks and wasn't going to get in unless he got a shot. So he got it. I think all of us are going to hear more stories like this.
There’s something I’ve been wondering… if you have to provide proof of vaccination to see Joe Rogan in Oct at MSG, does this mean they will turn Joe away, even though he’s performing? Or will they make an exception for him? Or will he bite the bullet and get vaccinated before the show?
I am pretty sure he is vaccinated and has been for awhile. Every single time he is asked he flat out refuses to say whether he is or not and we all know damn well if admitted that he was vaccinated he would lose millions of followers. He got covid recently and was sick for one or two days which is what usually happens with vaccinated people. If he wasn't vaccinated he would probably proudly announce that every chance he could.
Oh I thought he claimed he took the horse dewormer every anti-Vaxer is taking when they get it, and credited that for his quick recovery.
He did. Along with all the other legit and nonsense things they use to treat covid. Again though I think he is just playing to his base and I doubt any of those treatments mattered since he was probably already vaccinated just like his parents were.
Who knows if he even actually took any of those treatments. Rogan was heavily inspired to do his podcast by Opie and Anthony and he's often mentioned the "are they really doing this or is it a schtick" aspect. He knows how to keep people talking about him. I'm sure he got vaccinated months ago, too.
I haven't listened to Rogan's podcast since he jumped to Spotify but this doesn't surprise me at all. Why do so many anti-vaxers claim they're not anti-vaxers?. If you spend a lot of time talking conspiracy theory horseshit, at least have the guts to stand by what you're saying.
Ugh, this reminded me of what's happening in Portland currently. Among ALL the other bullshit the police have been pulling, they are refusing to abide by local government employee vax mandates. The city initially said that all employees - including police - would be required to be vaccinated in order to remain employed. But the police union balked, and our feckless mayor said "okay cops, do whatever you want. sorry residents, there's nothing we can do."
I stopped listening to him after his continued support of Alex Jones. I don’t mind crazy conspiracy stuff, but his insistance that Sandy Hook was fake, and the harassment and trauma it was causing to the parents was unacceptable, I don’t care if you think he’s a fun guy to get drunk with at Fogo de Chao, eventually you say fuck you dude. My company in NY is requiring us all to provide proof of vaccination, though we are all still remote with a tentative return to office in Nov. I have no idea what they will do to those who don’t provide it, if they will actually terminate employees over it.
Wow. Just, wow. Source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-vaccine-protest-1.6173293 Between Covid and the electioneering nonsense, the stuff that has been happening over the past year in Canada is really making me cringe. Idiotic disinformation, unironic MAGA support, fascist slogans, white supremacy links, and now associating this with the Holocaust? FFS.
I’ve been working through this entire pandemic in an office where no one wears masks, no one social distances and people come to work if they’re sick. I stepped up my vitamin/supplement game and I’m convinced it’s why I haven’t contracted COVID-19. (We’ve had about 6 cases out of about 30 employees..) This is what I’ve been taking: Every morning: - I take a scoop of Athletic Greens (multi-vitamin/superfood powder) with 600 IU of additional vitamin D. - 1 Emergen-C packet With lunch: - 1 Omega 3 vitamin - Multivitamin gummy With Dinner: - 1 Omega 3 vitamin - Multivitamin gummy Not only have I been safe from Covid, I haven’t been sick in the past 18 months either. If any of you have ever wanted to try Athletic Greens, shoot me a PM and I’ll send you a link for five free travel packs.
@ultrakaiju: We have a member of Congress who has repeatedly compared masks and vaccines to the Holocaust. Canada needs to step up their crazy game.
I hope youre taking enough liquids and your physicians advice, thats a lot for anyones liver. I do not miss working in those conditions or taking cocktails of over the counter things. Oh the suffering Sophie Scholls of the world (germany has its own brand of people that equate these, its quite sickening and this womans name was coopted for a second to analogize their oppresion). I find the wearing of the star of david the most blatantly disrespectful aspect of this. Its like: "No, Chad. Nobody is oppressing you for expecting your ignorant ass to wear a mask and take a shot." The worst thing of it all is that at these antivaxx demonstrations here in Berlin you see the flower children, ecofascist environmentalists, Wypipol, and neo nazis protesting hand in hand. Its really a headscratcher, they all want the other to be dead and away, but first they need their support.
Thanks for the heads up. I usually drink at least 1 gallon to 1.5 gallons of water per day, something tells me I’ll be ok.
I had my second dose of Pfizer yesterday. Likely to be a requirement to be vaccinated in Australia, well particularly NSW, if you wish to go out anywhere.
By the way, Ivermectin is used in humans ALL OF THE TIME. It’s actually on the world health organization‘s list of essential medication‘s and the discovery of it won the doctor a Nobel Peace Prize. It’s used to treat scabies, river blindness, intestinal roundworm in humans. Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and is approved for use in humans to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms, head lice and skin conditions such as rosacea. When taken in appropriate, prescribed doses it can be highly effective. It is also considered to be extremely safe. All of this info was discovered by spending five minutes on Google, Most of this info came directly from the world health organization website. I’m still trying to figure out why people are saying that it’s only used in horses..
^^^Do you know HOW that was done? Through rigorous clinical trials. NOT through anecdotal "research". The vaccine has gone through clinical trials FOR COVID. Ivermectin hasn't. Perhaps Lauren Boboert can continue misusing campaign funds to fund a clinical trial on the effectiveness of ivermectin - but until someone actually conducts a series of studies on its safety and effectiveness in treating COVID, no health agency can legally promote its use. And for the conspiracy theorists to shun vax but take ivermectin just shows that they have no internal consistency or logic to their actions - everything they do is purely reactionary against whatever tHe LeFt thinks, does, or says. No different than their cafeteria-style "religion".
Spend one more minute on Google and you'd find your answer: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/19/ivermectin-horse-dewormer-owners-covid/ ". . . commonly used on horses, livestock and sometimes dogs and cats . . ." "On the website for Fleet Farm, a livestock supply chain in the Midwest, Horse Health Equine Ivermectin Paste sells for $6.99 but is not available for online orders. It carries a prominent warning telling consumers that “these products are not safe or approved for human use.” “There was an immediate frustration expressed by retailers who felt it was necessary to re-shelve ivermectin labeled products behind counters or locked in cases,” said Cliff Williamson, director of health and regulatory affairs at the American Horse Council. “Shoppers now go through extra steps to obtain equine medication.” "Interest in ivermectin as a supposed covid-19 cure has been floating on the fringes of the Internet and conservative media for months, since a 2020 study in Australia showed that ivermectin killed the novel coronavirus in a laboratory. The experiment, however, used doses large enough to be potentially fatal in humans. The website where the study was posted now warns not to self-medicate with ivermectin." After reading an article like this (of which I am sure there are many others) it would be easy to walk away with the assumption that it wasn't OK for human consumption, but as you noted, it can be administered safely in appropriate doses. Regardless, it hasn't been proven to be an effective treatment or preventative against COVID-19. Some people on both sides of the vaccine argument are misinformed, but I think those purchasing prescriptions for animals and ingesting copious amounts to their probable detriment, along with anyone promoting such behavior are who we should be concerned about, not those downplaying the potential benefits of a drug used to treat unrelated illnesses and ailments.
Someone joked that Texas is now a state where women don't have reproductive rights, but COVID-19 does. New Jersey has been rolling out Pfizer boosters for the people that need it. Wait time is pretty much zero nowadays, you can just walk in and get your third shot. Meanwhile, I've been hearing from friends and family who have gotten breakthrough cases, and none of it sounds fun. Keep up your physical distancing and masking, folks, Delta and Mu are single and ready to mingle.
Same over here. Unfortunately most of society seem to see the vaccine as a free-pass, rather than just a risk-reducer!
In the case of the people I'm talking about, they are all folks who have continued to limit their social activities and have kept up with wearing masks post-vaccination. They got sick because Delta is much more contagious and widespread now, and yes, because there are a lot of boneheads out there doing none of this. Thankfully the vaccinations have kept them out of the hospital.