MVH toys thread

It might help if perhaps there was some clarity into which runs you mean to stay blank and what you are cool with customizing? I know with the worm black blank you flat out said this isn't meant for customization and I'm sure some people might have considered that if you didn't say it

I'm speculating that open runs like the marbled meats were meant so anyone can easily get their hands on an MVH piece and those who want customization it's cool. Maybe I'm wrong though

 

I would have never guessed that the solids were more limited than the marbles, I always find this kind of stuff interesting. You aren't kidding with the pulls, this DX was a freaking beast! Honestly, it was such a lovely figure to hold. I hope that you also can enjoy how the Krampus turns out, I'm sure it will be a sight to behold! In the end, to me, it's not about how rare something is or isn't, just about appreciating and enjoying what you have. Of course, some prefer their blanks as solids and some prefer as marbles, I prefer marbles.

On the topic of painting blanks, adding to what @kid_miracleman said... Are there currently many artists who find it disrespectful to have their toys painted as private commissions? I always thought commissions on blanks was a normal practice. But then again, I remember @Rich said about when he started painting sofubi.. that some artist had a problem with him painting on his toys. I'm not sure if this was an exception, or that times have just changed.

 

*shakes head, bites tongue and moves onto next thread*

 

Just dont get rare shit painted if you dont wanna piss people off. I think it's safe to say that all mvh shit is rare at this point.
but anyone can do whatever they want with their toys. I would only be kind of annoyed if someone painted over something from one of my painted releases, but I still do intend blanks to stay blank. But it's none of my business after theyre sold. I try to make it easy by almost never selling blanks

 

Who is people? I don't want to be confrontational, but the only person I could care what they think in this case is Rich himself.
If he told me he thought it was disrespectful, or something to that extent, I would be happy to keep it as a blank.
But if the man himself says he's not mad, I'm not going to make a decision based on what will annoy other people least.

Separately, I agree it is disrespectful to paint over another artists painted release.

 

your fellow collectors who dont wanna see rare toys become even more rare and harder to get.
do whatever you want with your toys, but a collector who missed out on it, and would love a blank black version, will be annoyed for sure.
I'm not even that person, I'm just letting you know.

 

Honestly I think that just sounds immature on the part of the person who is getting upset.
It also assumes that the buyer would have passed it along if it was kept as a blank.
If it doesn't recirculate, it's a moot point.

 

one more shot of this lovely boy

 

"x collector would love this so they should have it" is a non-argument. There are more people who want every MVH release than there are releases. This is also assuming Max will sell one day, which I don't think is going to happen. If anything it sounds like salt because he's locking the toy into his collection with the commission.

There are plenty of custom paints that ruin the original art, and I'm against that, but I firmly believe this will produce something equally good. It would be saddening if fresh spins on MVH were forbidden because of demand and run size.

Besides, people play a weird game with painting blanks out here. Nobody was born with an airbrush in their hand; how do you think every painter you love got good? I think it's in better taste to send a rare toy to someone who will really knock it out of the park and appreciate the original design, but this "all blanks should stay blank" stuff needs a rest.

 

This is my fault. Yeah, I don’t intend for any of my runs to be painted by anyone expect me UNLESS it’s a colab and said as such. However, I’m also not mad what so ever when someone gets their toy painted by someone they like. I’m always cool with people doing what makes them happy. If you get a release and want to get it painted by all means go for it.

But yeah, I don’t ever make anything with the ideas being for people to custom what so ever.

I also don’t release numbers much because I don’t want people to use numbers for why they want it. I just want people to buy because they like not because it’s limited. So unless I have a reason if you notice I try not to.

All good questions and I appreciate the conversation

 

how is it a non-argument? alot of collecting relies on hopes for the aftermarket. This is an official release from the maker, that there will one less of, out there. making odds of getting it one day, even slimmer. Doesnt matter if he was planning on selling it. there's still hope that he would!!

This isnt about being salty you didnt score, or entitlement. It's is just different outlooks on collecting.
Theres some people that want art pieces and some that want to collect any version they think is cool and was released officially from the maker. noone said all blanks should stay blank, but have some consideration for fellow collectors when painting over rare shit.

lets say there was a factory painted run of only 10, rich didnt touch it. each toy was painted in 20 minutes.
Would you care if someone painted over it even though theres only 10 in existence? I think alot of people think blank means DIY, but theres alot of people that love blanks and look at them as the same as a painted release.

 

anyone can buy an airbrush. I would hope they dont learn how to use it on your favorite micro-run.

 

I appreciate this conversation. Times do change and so does opinions on what’s ok and what’s not. I also think each artist has their own take on what they want outside what is now socially acceptable.

Again, just tossing this out. I’m not mad. It’s juts now not an offical paint, it’s a custom, and that’s totally fine as long as the person who owns it is happy. That’s the point.

To be clear, again, I don’t sell anything with the idea these are meant to be for people to paint over. I’m from the middle ground of it being ok and it not. So if you buy anything from me you know my stance. And know I’m also ok if you decide you want to hire someone to paint it, it’s just not what I had planned for.

 

Other threads are boring so back for a bite . . .

I don't collect and am unfamiliar with Rich's stuff but the same principles apply across most sofubi.

IMESHO the beauty of a blank figure is in it's unique 'blankness'. I find they add contrast and a cool juxtaposition within a collection. I didn't really dig Secret Base splattered figures until I realised how they bring real different dynamic to the cabinets. The same goes for clears, marbled, glitters, GIID and figures with inserts or guts . . . all bring something fresh to the party.

I even dig HP's . . . BUT only HP's by the artist who's sculpt it is, or by someone with a connection or bond that gives/adds relevance.

Getting some random third party joker with an airbrush to 'inflict' his vision on a rare blank figure seems as disrespectful as painting over a painted version. Surely it would be better to negotiate and/or come to a deal with the artist to add something (or just leave well alone).

It shouldn't matter (although I find it funny to see), but 9 times out of 10, as time passes a rare blank figure will invariably be 'worth' (both monetary and sentimentally) than a 'custom' that you have paid an extra bunch of cash to have done.

This discussion comes around every 3-4 years with each wave of noobs. The search button is your friend!

 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the matter. As I understand it, while it is not your intention, you are not inherently against the idea of it. I can totally understand this point of view.

From my perspective, I am getting a custom work from a favorite painter of mine who I have seen do amazing work on MVH toys. I know I will be thrilled with the final product, and to me, that is what I am excited for, and that is what's important. I hope everyone here can just be happy for my happiness, and I truly hope it's not just wishful thinking.

Separately, @Rich you mention different artists feel different ways. Personally I am inexperienced with private commissions. In the future, do you recommend reaching out to the artist who sells the blank before reaching an agreement with a painter, to make sure they will not feel offended? Or, maybe it is totally unnecessary, or just invite other scrutiny? While I mentioned not caring what other collectors think in regards to my own collection, I do not want to do anything to offend the original creator.

 

At the end of the day I think it’s whatever someone wants to do with their toy, but I agree with Andy and Evom...I personally think the figure is beautiful unpainted, and there are so many damn customizers out there now. Yes, some of them are talented as hell. So what? It’s still painting over a rare small-run toy that plenty of people would kill to have.

In terms of limiting the availability to future collectors, it’s a bit like Rolexkaiju owning two Leviathans in a run of 5. Sure it’s not a dick move on that level by any means, but the end result is the same-you are taking a rare toy out of the pool for ownership by other interested collectors in the future in a way. If you are going to keep it forever, then cool. But most folks aren’t gonna have much interest in after it has been ‘blessed’ by xyz’s paint job.

If I were going to get something customized I’d use a toy from a preorder run or at least a much larger run. But that’s just my opinion, and opinions truly are like
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Chances are Rich will do a larger blank Krampus run at some point...why not just hold out until that happens? I think even stripping a big painted Medicom preorder run is better than painting over a rare blank, but that’s just me. This is a new figure, I’d say just be patient. There will probably be better opportunities to get your custom itch scratched.

This is all just discussion, toy philosophy if you will. No anger or resentment in my post whatsoever.

 

Amen to that! Typically I don't like black blanks, but the toy was awesome. Rich did a great job with the new DX bodies, heads, and factory choice! I am really looking forward to seeing all the new Obitsu toys all painted up by Rich.

 

Thanks @Rich for your clarity on this. It's interesting because we have a mutual maker friend who got scolded by another toy maker for painting a blank they traded that he painted only for his own personal enjoyment. He didn't even want him to post a picture of it and was upset he painted it on principle. I think it goes without saying this hobby is filled with people with a lot of....interesting positions

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a while back I believe you said something akin to doing an open run timed pre-order of all new sculpts once to give everyone an opportunity to own a piece of yours, right? Is that still the plan?

I think having those be "paint as you see fit" runs is a good idea. I'm sure there are hundreds of marbled meats out there and they regularly go for sticker price or below on the after market. But to your point, if something is very limited it should stay that way.

 

with that being said. purple or yellow should be a upcoming blank. do it for the people... *wink*

 

Originally it was said to be open but then he clarified to mean it to be a large run (e.g. 100pcs). Using the worm as an example, they lasted 3-5 minutes, so anyone dedicated could get one.

 

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personally.. if you're going to custom a MVH blank... might as well support Zheng too. lol. I think those who have gotten a MVH pull custom'd, for the most part have devalued their toy by having X artist throw paint on it. The item was probably worth more blank. Not that value drives me or anything. but if you had paid $1 for something that ends up being worth$7 and then pay another $10 on top to make it worth $5. seems silly. to me.

 

People do not commission blanks to increase their value. This isn't about value in the first place.

 

The best are the toys that have drugs laced with pubes inside! They’re my favorite.

Send those to me, please.