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    I've embraced the soapity soapness of it, mostly, so I more than less enjoyed last night's entertainment. Even the yet-to-be-officially-revealed teleportation powers that Tommy Carcetti clearly possesses, and yes, even the timey-wimey bits.

    With Brienne about to hit the road, I wonder what the odds are that she'll run into the bastard Baratheon when stopping for a hot cuppa. We're overdue for a Gandry sighting, methinks.

    Hopes aren't nearly so high for a check-in with Hot Pie.

    Oh, and thanks for the refresher on the Spider's molested member, Steve. I think I'll give that ep a re-watch tonight.
     
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    Wholy ships! That was Withnail himself demanding more wine! Missed that last night; 'prolly on accounta those damn, dirty distracting bewbs.

    Anyway, just did the IMDB thing and learned Mr. Grant's character's name. Gives a most interesting clue as to what the next arclet will be for our young assassin.
     
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    This season blows the last one out of the water and we're only 5 episodes in!

    Pretty curious what'll happen with little finger now, if he's still going to fight for Sansa or not.

    I really wanted to hear more about the voice in the flames r/e Varys

    The Bran stuff was amazing! especially with that Night's King spotting him, so many more questions there. Was that whole vision from him grabbing the bones in the cave or was it the roots? I think I need to do a re-watch for that scene alone
     
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    Easy, just Warg into one of the dragons :)
     
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    I do not want to repeat myself about how I feel about the current season.
    Just one thing since everyone praises the Hodor resolution.
    My thoughts:
    You have a cave in a remote area of permanent ice where no people live nor have lived.
    The inhabitants of said cave are half a dozen child sized Children of the Forest who do not build.
    The main entrance of the cave is just that - a cave. As far as I recall there was nothing in that cave that was made - no tables, no beds, no nothing.
    But you have a backdoor. Of course you do. A Hodor sized backdoor to be precise.
     
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    Isn't it weird that people are really praising it though? I mean, I have definitely read some over-the-top positive reviews of the episode, and a large portion of that I would put down to the usual, 'oooh, entertainment,' but I can't help but question why so mean are action like this is some act of genius on the writers'/B&W's part to come up with this connection (it has come directly from GGRM, in fact, but that is neither here nor there). It was very contrived, as I said earlier, and I thing the 'genius' of this revelation is actually more silly than anything.* I am fine with suspension of disbelief, this is a show about magic, dragons, fairies, and undead dudes after all, so fine, but give me some credit for having a brain between my ears as well. It wasn't even just the door, how about the wights suddenly crawling/digging like superpowered moles through the entire mountain to reach the 'heart' of the tree/cave? Uh, wouldn't that have high implications for a lot of other aspects in the show? Anyways, guess the story is going to lead to a climax of Bran just going to greensee/warg his way to f'ing up the entirety of Westeros through all time and setting this whole story in motion. Because GGRM does not want to write any more novels.

    * there is also a possibility of another connection to this whole 'hold the door' link which I don't even want to get into or mention, because if it is true it is sad and I would rather not acknowledge it
     
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    Now I am curious :oops: :)
     
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    Like, maybe, that young time-spannin' Bran eventually pursues an interests in architecture and woodworking? Doors, walls, what have you. ;)
     
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    As for the Wights crawling/digging into the cave, we saw the Night King put his hand to the ground and cause it to break apart. I'd guess this created cracks/holes that the Wights were able to get through.

    Now think to the scene of the Children turning that dude into an Other. We saw the tree he was strapped to before, during, and after the transformation. Before, and during it was alive/whole. After it was dead, and split. Mayhaps that was the creation of the Night King, and he used said breaking power to split the tree and escape. Bad news for Westeros if the Night King puts his hand to the ground in front of The Wall if so.
     
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    Okay, this is a cheap joke, but hey, I never said I was above it. :)

     
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    That one was circulating around my dad's workplace yesterday, pure genius. Terrible heartbreaking genius.
     
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    Expostion+CGI=GoT
     
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    Yeah, you'd think for an episode that had a reveal, brought in a much-referred character, and revolved around a near revolution, that it would have been a bit more engrossing or memorable. But kinda meh. Benjen coming back to the show was pretty poorly handled, in my opinion. Firstly, there was absolutely zero reason to have a 'reveal' halfway through the show, when it was clear that it was him from minute one. Moreso especially for Bran; how does he not recognise him, or at least his voice? Erm. And, evidently, I am assuming they are making him Coldhands, which kind of sucks, because no sweet elk (or raven flock), Martin saying specifically he wasn't, and him being referred to as being dead 'a long time ago' by someone 200+ years old. But anyways, let's assume he either is or isn't, I would have still have liked to see some more 'special' appearance to him, nut just a kinda blue face. This show has always cut down the fantastical elements, which I can't really understand, b/c look at the material, but outside of some CGI zombies we have yet to see any really cool looking/magical characters in the world. A small thing, but one which is made just that much more obvious by the showwriters having him hide his face with a scarf for half the episode. The connection to the children, them saving him, apparently teaching him everything they ever knew about the Others, the Three-Eyed Raven, Bran's powers, giving him magic weapons, etc., etc., was a bit too convenient, but fine, I will buy it, he was missing for a while after all. But how could they 'rescue' him by the same method they made the Others? Wouldn't that make him an Other? And why him (outside of plot convenience's sake, because Stark) when tens of thousands before were not? I dunno, don't ask stupid questions. Bonus point of order: Bran doesn't seem all that bothered by the loss of Hodor or Summer; both of which have literally saved his life and several occasions and he has warged to be 'one' with. That seems.... kinda cold (pun only half intended). But he is also not all that excited to see his uncle, so who knows. This is the kind of character development the show has long decided to set by the way side I gather.

    So it turns out the HS orchestrated this all from the beginning, as I has theorised. The question is how he is going to be brought down from here, what Margaery is playing at, and when we will finally get the conclusion to gold their shrouds (seriously, enough with Tommen). And how would the new power really handle the attempted coup by Westeros' most powerful remaining houses? I mean, sure Jaime gets sent away, but that really isn't anything. I look forward to Bronn's return to the show, but wonder if the whole bit about about Jaime heading off to the Riverlands, but not really, was kind of a dig or nod to the fact that yes, that happened in the books, but we are just going to drop it altogether.

    I think the show should have ended with Arya blowing out the candle. I am under no impression at all that she is in any danger, but at least it would have left us with something. I really did not need to see another ended of Dany giving her pep talk about being queen and showing her power through dragons YET AGAIN. Is this just the GoT go-to ending now when they can't think of another way to wrap the show and have seven minutes left? Uhm, there are a dozen other more interesting stories happening in Westeros they have dropped completely, and they are cutting so much, I wish they wouldn't waste time on these scenes. But Dany. Duh. Remember how she was all the rage when season 1 finished (and sparked a boom in the US of people naming their kids Khaleesi? :? )1 2 . Yeah, there is no way that was ever going to come back on us.

    More thoughts on the episode, but one final parting one for now. Do you think the flashing scenes as Bran 'greensees' through time are a strong indication of the theory I mentioned, where he - either intentionally or not, I guess we will see - set so much of all this history in motion?
     
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    The only way to make Westeros great again would be for Drogon to go rogue, nuke the whole Khalasar & then throw Daenerys into the Narrow Sea.
     
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    Yeah, ethnic cleansing and the shunning/murder of those who consort with said 'ethnics' usually fixes up most situations. Good plan!
     
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    Why did the mother of dragons spend half an hour giving a speech to an army of like 7 people...?
     
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    Because memos and free wireless hadn't been invented yet. Doy.
     
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    I was making a suggestion on how to eliminate the most boring part of the storyline, who knew that would trigger your fucking professional victim sjw microaggression bullshit :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
     
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    Blaze-worthy bluster, my friend. I'm confident that no one here wants to watch us work our way through this in public. Keep Dearborn clean.
     
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    Getting back to the show, a couple of predictions on my end,

    1) it seems clear to me that Arya is not going to die (at least not yet) despite the 'danger' I keep hearing people speak of; I think the entire build up of Jaqen being so vague with terms like "A girl" and such, and the shows already very willing ability to play with pronouns to offer a 'twist' to the viewer has made it pretty obvious there are building up an out for the writers. Foregoing for the time being all the counterarguments about the code of the Faceless Men and whatnot, and the Waif's own motivations, if he really sent her to 'kill' Arya, I see this playing out as her (Arya) returning to him as the Waif, i.e. having played out with the killing as expected, only to later 'reveal' herself as Arya under the face in the future. And it could well be implied Jaqen knew all this in advance, hence the purposeful vagueness from the get go, him sending the Waif, who in the show at least has some clear personal motivation (again, against the code of the FM), 'a girl' will actually become no one, and Arya is ready/free to move on in her story.

    2) dropping the name of the Brotherhood seems like far from random or coincidental. With all of the convergence now in the Riverlands, and this mention, I think it might actually be possible we get to see LSH after all. It is not necessary in the slightest, and wouldn't really add anything at this point in the story, but I could see it playing out that she comes to take her revenge on Walder Frey in the end, thus eliminating one more baddie and loose plot before the show wraps up

    3) Sam accidentally drop's Heartsbane, severing several toes and fingers as he fumbles trying to catch it*

    * okay, that last one was a joke, but would have made the entire Horn Hill scenes more interesting and consequential than we got. "Oh look, remember Randyll Tarly and how mean we said he was? Just in case, here is a lengthy exposition bringing us nothing new that tells you that as a reminder." Just give us the Citadel already (though they conveniently 'forgot' about how the entire purpose of going to Horn Hill was because Gilly and the baby could not go there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    PS - did anyone else notice an incredible resemblance between baby Sam and his dad (the actor who played Craster)? Even done intentionally, that seems like pretty fortuitous casting. :razz:
     
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    1) I'd actually find it more believable if the waif -did- kill Arya and the Faceless Men used -her- face to... well, whatever it is they do (assuming they have a hidden agenda? I mean, what was Jaqen doing in Westeros in the first place? Did he kill anyone important?)

    2) I, for one, would totally love to see that storyline come back. I really enjoyed it in the books - it was one of the few that were removed from a "privileged" point of view.

    3) How does this bit go in the books again? I recall they take the long way round through Braavos and the Summer Isles, but doesn't Sam send her to his parents' castle and goes on alone to the Citadel? Where there was a single chapter with a mysterious "Pain" or something like that...
     
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    No one would have to if you exhibited a modicum of self control. You are an adult right, at least according to the label on your diapers?
     
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    Way to waste Swearengen. That speech is possibly the best in the books, but they change it to mean the opposite?

    Also Deepwood Motte and Bear Island are wooden keeps, not stone castles.
     
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    SWEDGEN!
    CUCK SUCKUH!

    Back door Wu, back door . . . . so at least this episode was better than the last one. A lot better.

    Ian McShane was fucking superb as always. Short but very sweet. The hound back = great (I knew he'd be back, I just did). Arya stabbed = great (finally something tangible after all the smoke and mirrors / repetitive beatings snore fest).

    Its not the same show anymore but I'm not done watching it yet, damn it. Theres still gold in them thar hills. I mean, the Onion Knight - who doesn't love him?
     

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