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Discussion in 'Americans and Other Western Gaijin' started by Rich, Jan 28, 2019.

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  1. quentor

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    I just will never understand why you do things the way you do. I can list 5 ways to sell better just drinking my coffee.



    I knew it would be mess cuz it always is. Lies lies lies sorry sorry sorry, same old lame excuses and stories as to why NONE of your actual fans get any of your work. I'm not going to f#$king pat your head here Rich. You told us all we would be able to buy mulitiples. You made it sound like there was a lot to go around. again. Then the lame ass sob storys and round after round of apologies. It happens EVERY TIME. Get therapy. Get a effing clue
     
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    Are we really gonna fucking do this again?
     
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    At this point, @quentor is like a piece of performance art :lol:

     
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    I don't do liars and excuse makers who apologize the next day. It's literally like the girl I just broke up with. Lots of promises. Lots of tears. Lots of good intentions, and never could pull it off.
     
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    Plenty of fans did score. Some folks were able to score multiples. Rich never suggested there was a lot to go around and I dont think it makes sense to assume there would be. Every picture that went up on instagram got hundreds of likes. I thought that was a pretty solid indicator that demand was going to be huge and that a lot of us were going go be out in the cold.

    I eagerly waited for last night for a long time. I didn't get my first DX. But a lot of guys who have been trying to score for years broke their droughts and have some really beautiful pieces to show for it.

    Seems to me that's how it works. On to the next one, which I hope is soon.
     
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    You don’t do excuse makers who apologize the next day? You flip out every mvh drop you miss, take it out in Rich and then apologize in thread the next day and make a bunch of excuses.

    He does a nice job of making things available in a number of ways. Lottos, limited shop drops, larger open run releases and multiple shows. Nobody owes you a thing. Sorry you took an L, but a lot of other people above didn’t. The way you behave is just selfish, if you didn’t score it was rigged/botched/unfair/blah blah blah.
     
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    To be fair.. Rich came out straight forward and said that that cart system didn’t work.. he made an IG love about it.. it posted right up until drop to give everyone fair warning about the cart system. So you missed out, AGAIN.. but so did everyone else...

    He even answered questions after the drop... why must every time after store drops consist of shitting on Rich? We all knew that Shopify used to let you cart hold, that’s why everyone was happy he decided to switch shops. Guess what? That site changed and that’s not Rich’s fault. He doesn’t own it, he tried to though, he really did.
     
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    Let me run you back through the last week and how sick this dude is. He comes on here asking if we even like him anymore, like a effing child, with such a fragile ego that he needed to put his place here on the line. Really it was just preparing us for this drop and the debacle he knew it would be. He was saying "hey when I eff this up next week please don't crucify me here because I can't help the way I am." So we all just say ummm....okay. Then he comes back and says sorry again, and messes it all up again....(zero surprise) but...but nobody will say a bad word against him for fear of him leaving SB? It's blackmail. Either say nice things or I'll leave? Hahaha! Um no. I won't. You could have sold one toy a week. You could have sent them to lulubell to handle it. You could get a f#$king manager since this obviously isn't your strength. IDK!!! I don't care!!!! just please stop apologizing and whining about your own releases! It's like self harm stuff. Seriously weird. #notfallingforitagain
     
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    Umm no. He can leave SB if he wants to, I don’t care. No one is kissing ass here. I’m sure he goes through a lot of messages and shit like this regardless of where he posts. We missed a drop.. it happens, get pho and move on, we all already did.
     
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    Just take your sad angry bullshit elsewhere. You seem unable to express joy or be happy for anyone else. I’ve read a bunch of nice stories about people getting their first dx, after wanting one for years. Do you remember the feeling of getting a toy you really wanted after years of searching/trying? Those stories make me happy whether I get a toy, or not. Part of this hobby is excitement for others getting toys they have wanted forever. I feel sad for you that this aspect is lost on you. The hobby is probably bitter and sad when it’s just all about you.
     
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    I didn't even try! So....I'm just watching the show. You guys keep thinking I even care about the toys. Like it's an entitlement thing. I'm just watching this sociopath writhe and twist and I'm not going to let everyone think it's about toys at all. It's not. It's about this weird ass dude and how he does things. I've said it before but look at any other maker. Do they drop like this? Do they behave like this? Um no.
     
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    What's weird to me is the assumption that, with the right system, every "real fan" can come out of a drop with a toy. I don't think any amount of work would guarantee that in this medium. It's cool to see Rich trying to make sales less stressful, and even though you say it's all talk, I was wasting time on the site late last night and noticed the checkout button had changed. The code showed it was another attempt at getting the cart reserve working. Seeing that people were still working on it so soon after the drop dissolved most of my frustration from the evening right there.

    I get that emotions at drop time run high and missing something is very disappointing. But it's a big scene, and most of us own plenty of toys we love already. Personally I get a lot more out of playing with one of those, getting a good night's sleep and unplugging from the whole thing than I would blowing up the forum, and feeding my frustration from the drop for as long as the thread is active.

    For the record, a worldwide shop drop from a maker with comparable run sizes and popularity would go exactly like this. It's the market, not the person at all imo.
     
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    What positive do you have to contribute then? I see nothing. Man.. most makers don’t even answer/view their DMs when they do the lotteries that say DM to enter...
     
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    The resident SB nutjob blows back in yet again to call someone else crazy.

    Let me help you avoid sticking your entire foot back in your mouth over and over again by just reposting your last apology from last time you flipped your wig the same exact way.

    I'll do you a second favor and copy/paste the same reply I left you last time you hilarious little tragic comedy.

    "You are seriously delusional.

    You STILL call the way you act and treat people you just being "passionate" but the truth is being a complete asshole and being passionate are in no way the same thing. Just because you always eventually apologize for something doesn't mean it didn't fucking happen.

    You STILL think it's other people's fault because they "goad you into a fight" but several people including me saw yet another ridiculous meltdown coming and tried nicely to HELP YOU by calming you down before you snapped. It failed miserably just like you do every time baby doesn't get his sofubi bottle. You are easily the meanest person on the entire forum yet you blame this place for making you act the way you do.

    Look at the things Rich just said about you. Think about how he has hooked you up with toys in the past just to be nice even though you pan handle for them constantly before you flip your wig. You really think even if you won any MVH lottery(or any other lottery from someone reading this thread)that he wouldn't set aside your entry and give it to someone who was sane instead? Someone who didn't constantly insult him year after year? Someone who isn't know for flipping sofubi on ebay? Someone who acted like a decent person towards him and his fans? Someone who didn't constantly say everyone who is nice to the guy is just kissing his ass because they want something from him? You have any idea how fucking awful that is? To tell someone no one actually likes him and everyone is just nice because they want something in return? That is a HORRIBLE thing to tell anyone and you say it to him all the damn time. I sure as hell would never let you win any toy I ever made if I was Rich because you treat people like shit."


    This has been a public service announcement.
     
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    Didnt read it. Next.

    I'll repeat. I didn't try this time. I'll give you a second.....
    I was at a coffee shop with some friends and told them about the release. They don't collect but wanted to see what my hobby was about. I refreshed and sold outs popped up in under 30 seconds. I refreshed again and all sold out. They were like whoa. Then I showed them the comments on FB and IG they were all hurt people posts and apologies. Then we all said that's insane and we went back REAL LIFE. This IS insane. Stop acting like it ain't.
     
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    Not trying for the drop doesn't lend any weight to anything you've said. Collecting rare or limited pieces is at the very least as much missing out as it is getting what you want, no matter what the system is. There is no answer to this problem because you have multiple collectors wanting each individual piece that comes out. The Worm pre-order was a HUGE run of 200 and people still missed out. It's part of collecting stuff.
     
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    I don’t usually comment on these things but I really think this invective needs to stop. It’s not what we’re about, and it’s not productive. Whether or not you tried for a toy in this release does not give you a pass. Personal insults have no place here or anywhere on SB.

    Personally, I can see how rich tried hard to fix a shopping system in big cartel that was broken and caught buyers and sellers alike all by surprise. His communication couldn’t have been better, leading up to, during, and after the drop.
     
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    Whelp, if the goal was to steamroll the positivity in this thread, id say it’s a total fucking success.

    My simple comment of friendly praise and selfish joy is now suffocated by a giant pillow of downright delusional negativity.

    I rarely comment here on SB and now I totally understand where my reluctance comes from. And it makes complete sense why Rich questions the value of engaging in conversation here as well.

    This just got real lame and real cruel.
    Absolutely NOT the thread I was hoping would follow my comment.

    But that’s just what we new SBers are taught to expect from this place. So I guess it’s ok...?

    Holy Hell...
     
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    I’m glad you’re enjoying the attention. I mean, however you can get it, right?

    My personal experience of last night’s drop: I registered my account ahead of time. I logged into paypal ahead of time. Started refreshing about 15 minutes before the drop. I have a mediocre dial-up connection. No bots..I wouldn’t even know how to begin going about using one. I scored one King Skull King DX using my iPhone while chilling in bed with my dog. I even had to log back into paypal to check out. Totally happy with my experience.

    Have I missed on multiple drops? Sure. It wouldn’t be half as fun if you won them all.

    The truth is, Rich offers a shit ton of avenues to score toys. More so than the majority of toy makers. I’m so tired of hearing the whiners and complainers. I mean, fuck... if you can’t score one through lotto or drop, trade for one. If you want one badly enough, be patient and pay a modest upcharge on the secondary (deals still still exist with time and patience, on this board actually). Or be impatient and pay too much on the secondary. Or don’t. Collect something else.

    Just quit fucking complaining.

    Edit: I don’t still have a dial-up connection...I’m so old and ignorant of technology, I might as well.
     
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    Quent, can I just point out how you flipped out and said some really nasty things to me on IG because someone got to a mini kirinbilly toy before you did?

    You really have a tantrum anytime you don't get what you want. Stop acting high and mighty and check yourself man. You are the definition of entitled. I have our conversation saved, in case you want me to share here as well.

    I didn't get anything last night I'm 0/3. Who cares? They are toys, life goes on, it's not a big deal. Let the man run his business the best he can. Save your words of "wisdom" for the deaf.
     
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    Welcome to SB, we aren’t always assholes, but most of the time we are, can you blame us?!!
     
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    Double post.. but I member...
     
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    @foto junkaay bit of a tangent foto but you don't need to mark a message as read to read a message from a person you aren't following. So you can't say if they read the message or not. This seems to be a common misconception.
     
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    Okay so I'm being mean ASF. But in my opinion, you need to figure that out before you drop. Not after. I didn't like that he said we could get multiple toys and that the shop cart would hold for you. Then hours before says oh shoot good luck in the world wild west. Then all of these IG and FB comments of new collectors (yes I remember my first win and appreciate that) that really truly didn't understand what happened to them. I don't understand either. Help me understand. It happens over and over and over and over. #justlotto
     
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